This process is too much hassle. In my case, my TIN was registered to RDO 57 which is in Binan, Laguna because my first company. Since I lived in Metro Manila, I went to the nearest BIR Office as expected they can’t process your TIN Card and RDO Update. They asked me to go to Binan, Laguna to get one. I read cases like this in other forums which someone lives in Visayas but his RDO is somewhere in Luzon. I hope with the new BIR head Joel Tan address this case. Kawawa naman yung nakatira sa malayo. It’s acceptable if the RDO is within Metro Manila but it it’s located in different province, it’s hard.

Yung perang ikakain mo sana, nauwi lang sa pamasahe at nasayang pa oras mo.

Thank you for airing us your concerns. It is indeed problematic if your TIN is registered in another province. This is why we try to inform as many people about this so they can take steps in transferring their to the nearest BIR RDO where they plan to work. But there is a another solution for this. You can actually FAX your application form 1905 for transferring your TIN to the BIR RDO which has jurisdiction over the area where you are currently working. So after your TIN is transferred to the BIR RDO near your place of work you then request for a TIN card with that office. Using also the BIR Form 1905.

The number of TSS unit in RDO 57 is 511-9010 you can call them up to assist you with your request for transferring your TIN. So before faxing to them your 1905 call them first ask the person who will assist you. Here’s their fax numbers are (02) 5208262 local line for Manila residents and (049 )511-9797. Again after faxing call them up again to know if they receive your fax. You may want also to ask when they can transfer your TIN. So when this is done. You can go to the BIR RDO office where you requested your TIN to be transferred and apply for TIN Card. Hope this would help. Thank you and good day.

Hi, is there an online directory where i can get the ful name of the TSS head at RDO57? I’m processing an LOI for eFPS, can’t print coz i cant recall the names posted on the org charts. thanks! YES to e-government!

The online directory of the BIR is not yet updated. but will look up the name of the TSS head tomorrow. And will post it immediately. Thanks for visiting my blog.

The name of the TSS Head is Cherry Pie T. Gonzales. Good day.

hi gud evening, I aM writing/asking in behalf of a close friend, since he will be working in one of the major call centers here in the manila area, the H.R. representative handed him B.I.R. form 1905, the H.R representative told my friend to ask his former employer about its three digit RDO, so the funds will be transferred to the call center’s RDO. The issue is, my friend did not include all his previous employers in his resume to avoid the hassle of too many Certificate of employments and to avoid too many questions from the new employer’s H.R (:, His recent job was supposed to be from a hotel in q.c., his contract ended May 2009, since he did not pass the probationary period, but my friend only put his recent job as school teacher which was early 2008, The questions are, Wat does RDO stand for? Can my friend ask for the RDO of his previous employers not listed in the resume? Will the call center find out,? my friend ’s former employers never asked him for the RDO nor any 1905 forms ever. please help.

On your first question, The RDO stands for Revenue District Office of the BIR. There is an RDO who has a certain jurisdiction of a particular area. When your friend first applied for a TIN, there was an RDO who issued that TIN to him and thats where his TIN is currently registered. Second question, if understand it correctly. Lets be clear the RDO is not usually indicated in any resume. The HR is requiring your friend to file the BIR form 1905 because the TIN of your friend might not be registered with the RDO where that company is currently registered. For example the company is located in Pasig. That would be RDO 43 of the BIR but the TIN of your friend is in another RDO where he first got his TIN lets say his first job was in company located in Cubao. RDO 40 has jurisdiction over that area. So he should file the BIR Form 1905 to RDO 40 where his TIN is currently registered, to transfer it to RDO 43. Some employers would not ask this because the case might that those former employers are also registered with the same RDO where the TIN of your friend is also registered. IN the 1905 form at the bottom portion, you are required to fill the RDO number of your old RDO or the current RDO where the TIN of your friend is registered and the NEW RDO where you will transfer the TIN registration. So your friend should ask the new office on which RDO they file their taxes.

Good day! My current employer handed me a BIR 1905 Form. I understand that I should ask my previous employer for the RDO code. The problem is, I was as AWOL on that company (IBM-Daksh). Can I still ask them for the RDO code though? I will work in TP which has RDO 043. Or, is there any way for me to know the RDO of my previous company without asking them? Your response will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

No, you don’t need to ask your previous employer of your RDO code or the Revenue District Office where your TIN currently registered. This article provides the contact number where you can get this info. Call BIR TIN Verification Office at 981-7000 local 7030 or the BIR Contact center at 981-8888 or email contact_us@cctr.bir.gov.ph.

Hi, I would like to ask if there’s any way that I cna retrieve my TIN I got it from my previous employer which is Telus International Philippines (call center). I tried asking them of the RDo and if they have my number, They where my first employer, i receive no response form them. I called the Contact Center of BIR and I spoke to a guy he said that BIR has no records of my name or number. He only asked for my name, Ma. Theresse Zafra was my name registered under my TIN birthday is July 06, 1989. I hope to hear from you soon, I also emailed your contact center. I really need my TIN so I cna start working. Thank you.

If the Contact Center of the BIR hasn’t responded to you yet on this matter let me know. If you indeed have no record under your name then you need to apply for a TIN using 1902. This usually happens as personnel of companies tasked to do this aren’t really doing their jobs. Sometimes giving even bogus TIN only to find out by those employees later when they try to verify or update their TIN. Its is wise to follow up TIN with your office immediately if they indeed have done it for you. If they say they did but cannot give you the TIN then call BIR, if you found out that they haven’t filed one then its up to us to file for a TIN. This is unfortunate but things like this does happen. There is no BIR policy between employer and employee on who will get the TIN. Because there are companies who do not have the man power to give this service to their employees, In which in this case the employees personally apply for their TIN.

i have a problem. i was mistakenly registered as non-employee by a friend. i should be registered as an employee. now, i have to pay P500 for my TIN. what should i do?

First, why are you being ask to pay P500? unless you were registered thru 1901 for SELF EMPLOYED most probably as a professional or an agent of some insurance. You don't have to pay, because if you do, you are already telling BIR to go ahead with that registration as SELF EMPLOYED. But please be AWARE that once you have a TIN whether you got it thru first as SELF EMPLOYED or AS AN EMPLOYEE … that TIN is already yours for WHATEVER purpose you may need it. Meaning you can only have ONE TINE thats it. Whether you got it thru as an EMPLOYEE OR YOU GOT IT THRU AS A SELF EMPLOYED individual. Now again don't pay the P500 since you are employed you can use the BIR Form 1902 attach photocopy of your birth cert. pass this to the BIR Revenue District Office (RDO) where your current employment is also registered. Get the number of the attending personnel to call when or what is the TIN# assigned in your name. Thats it.

Hello po. I am registered at Paranaque but I work in Taguig. This is my first job and I started only last November. I went to BIR Taguig city to file my ITR but they said I should file it in Paranaque because I’m registered there and my BIR form 2305 (update of employer) was filed by my employer 2010 na so it is effective 2010. But since I’m filling for my 2009 income, I should file it in Paranaque. Are these procedures correct? If not what should I do. Thank you.

Yes Melissa, if your TIN is currently registered in Parañaque then the BIR Taguig office cannot touch or accept your request because they cannot access it only view it as some may say. So they would advise you to go to the said RDO where your TIN is currently registered. Your employer filed your BIR form 2305 in Taguig most likely and again even if BIR Taguig accepted it, but when they find that your TIN is not registered with them, they cannot process the said application. You need to request your TIN registration to be transferred using form 1905 from BIR Parañaque to BIR Taguig. Naturally, you need to file this with your current RDO which is BIR Parañaque as you said. So they can transfer your TIN to Taguig so that BIR Taguig can now accept your application for update thru BIR form 2305. Should you have any other concerns please drop a message. Good day.

HI! Thanks for your reply. So for now, I have to file my BIR 1905 which is request for transfer for RDO? So it’s okay even if I live Paranaque, I will a request for a transfer to Taguig because I work there? Then that’s the only time I can file BIR 2305. But then again, I will file 2009 ITR still in Paranaque? Thanks again.

and thank you also for visiting my site. Yes, need to do this. If you have transferred your TIN to BIR Taguig then this is the only RDO which can accept your tax return. If BIR Parañaque has already made the transfer then they cannot process or accept the return because your TIN registration is no longer in their jurisdiction but with BIR Taguig. It is only during the last day of the filing season which is April 15, that the BIR Commissioner will allow Taxpayers to file & pay anywhere through a memorandum. Meaning one can file & pay with any Revenue District Office of the BIR or its Accredited Agent Banks. For that day only. But it would be wise to file EARLY. To avoid the rush or hassles that may come with it.

Hi! I found this site really informative and I have a question of my own; about 2 years ago I worked at a call center but went AWOL… I’m pretty sure they got me a TIN so I went to the nearest BIR office in my area (quezon ave.) when i went to verify my TIN I was surprised to find my exact same name in the computer (first middle and last) only to find that the birth date of that person is different from mine. I’m pretty sure that they just made a mistake in filing the birth date and that I am the person registered under that TIN I saw. But the guy from BIR said that the TIN wasn’t mine because of the different birth date and I should just get my future employer to get me a new TIN (since I’m planning to apply for a job next week). What should I do? Should I submit a form or something that could change the birth date of that TIN or should I just let my future employer get a new TIN for me? A quick reply would be much appreciated… thanks.

Thanks also for visiting. Will be posting more information that you may need in the future. Anyway, If the name matches yours but the birthdate is in not yours. The next information you need to check is the address under that name if it matches yours. Usually the address in the TIN info does not reflect your home address some have used the address of their office but if the address is your home address then the TIN is most probably yours. Or if the address is is the address of your previous office then this would be another consideration that the TIN is yours. I’ve just updated the contact number of the BIR TIN Verification Office which is now 926-8339. Try calling them up. You should apply only after verifying this thru the said number using the detail i mentioned. Which is the ADDRESS under that TIN. Now if the result will turn out negative then thats the time you can apply for a TIN using BIR form 1902. There’s an article on this on the left side of this blog.

Hi. I just have a question regarding BIR form 2305. Do I need to submit my 2305 to my new RDO?or Do I need to go back to my old RDO to have my 2305 stamped?Thanks!

Yes, the BIR Form 2305 can only be submitted to the RDO where your TIN is currently registered. If you think your old RDO is where your TIN is currently registered then you can submit that application form to the said district. I would likewise advise you to call the BIR TIN verification office or the BIR Contact Center in the numbers mentioned in this article. So you can be sure that your TIN is registered in that RDO. Thanks for visiting.

Paano po kapag may existing business ako at gusto kong mag-trabaho sa isang companya? Paano ko i-fifill up ang BIR 1905 form?

good after… ask ko lang kunga paano kumuha ng tin number, part time employee lang ako kaya ako ang magprocess ng tin number.. anong form ang kailangan? sa Las pinas ako nkatira at sa makati ako magwork, saan BIR ako pupunta thanks

Genesis,
Pakitignan nalang po ang sagot ko dun sa isang article kung saan po nagpaskil din kayo ng parehong tanong.
http://birtaxinfo.i.ph/blogs/birtaxinfo/2010/03/02/transferring-bir-tin-registration/#comment-144

Mich,

Dun po kayo pupunta sa BIR office ng Makati kung saan nakarehistro ang office kung saan ka nag-tratrabaho. Basahin mo itong article kung papano ka mag-aaply, http://birtaxinfo.i.ph/blogs/birtaxinfo/2009/08/13/how-to-apply-for-a-tin-with-the-bir-for-employment/

BIR Form 1902 ang gaggamitin mo. Meron dun portion para dapat fill-up ng authorize representative ng office ninyo bago mo ito submit sa BIR Makati. Kung saan ang BIR RDO offices ng Makati click mo lang yun locational map article sa kaliwang bahi ng blog na ito. Alamin mo lang ang RDO No. kung saan narehistro yun office ninyo.

boss buti na alng at pinst mo to. Napakaraming pinoy ang naguguluhan sa rdo code at proseso ng transfer/ update ng info.

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Salamat po. Naway makarating itong info sa iba upang maging malinaw sa kanila ang mga bagay na ito.

hello. in relation po ito dun sa tanong ni genesis nung march 8. ako po ay dating empleyado sa isang government hospital mula 2006-2008. sa aking pagkakaalam, ang hospital po ang naglakad para kuhanan ako ng TIN (nag-submit po ako ng 1902 sa kanila). Ito po ang aking naging unang trabaho at never pa po akong nag-apply ng TIN dati.

Nung akin pong tawagan ang TIN verification center, sinabi po sa akin ang aking TIN at kung saang RDO ako nakaregister. Dahil po gusto kong lumipat ng RDO (dahil sa paglipat ng tirahan), nagsubmit po ako ng 1905 dun sa RDO kung saan ako nakarehistro ngayon. Nung nag-check po sila ng records nila, ang sabi po sa akin ay mayroon daw pong mga pending cases sa aking TIN/pangalan. Dahil according po sa records nila, nakaregister daw po akong VAT-professional since 2006 at wala daw po akong na-file na ITR at mga VAT payments.

Ang problema ko po ngayon ay wala po ako nung mga yun. Dahil empleyado lang naman po ako nung mga panahong iyon at di professional. Di po ako nag-file ng 1700 dahil iisa lang aking employee so yung 2316 ko ang ginagamit ko bilang ITR. Ang sabi po sa akin ay either bayaran ko ang mga penalties, o i-contest ko yung findings.

Ang tanong ko po ay ano ang aking gagawin? Ang sabi sa akin ay mukhang ang aking TIN ay nagenerate sa internet kaya di na nila machecheck kung sino ba talaga ang nagpagawa ng aking TIN. Papaano ko po kaya ito maaayos?

Sorry po sa aking mahabang comment. Medyo naguguluhan lang po kasi ako talaga. Sana po ay mabigyang linaw ninyo ang aking problem.

Maraming salamat po ng madami.

This is such a helpful site. And the moderator is friendly. I would like to know if TINs acquired online (when this was still available at the BIR web) for purposes of getting a driver’s license and transacting business with the government (E.O.98) can be used when that individual is subsequently employed. I understand an individual can only be issued a TIN ONCE. My son, however, did not go to the RDO-052 Paranaque to register his one-time TIN but eventually used the same number when he was employed. Is there any complication to this?

Hi, I’m having a difficult time understanding the TIN process for employment. I got my TIN four years ago for my driver’s license online. Recently, I went to the BIR Muntinlupa (RDO 53B) to file my withholding tax form, and they told me that I can’t use my TIN yet because it was under EO98. The personnel was kind enough to transfer me to RDO 44 in Taguig, since that’s where I work. A couple of questions:

1. Since my TIN was transferred to Taguig, does this mean that my TIN can be used (i.e. not under EO98 anymore?) or do I have to do anything to “activate” it? I really need to do this so that I can file my withholding tax.

2. Where exactly is the Taguig BIR office? The BIR site says it’s in the FTI complex, while the link in this site says it’s near St. Luke’s in the Fort…

Thanks so much, and this site is helpful to a lot of people!

Hello Bong, i’m sorry di ata na post yung sagot ko nun. I remembered answering your query couple of days ago but it seems hindi pumasok. But anyway, with regards to your problem you need to update and correct your registration with your RDO. Tell me which RDO you belong. I contacted RDO 38 to ask them pertaining your problem and they said that you should correct your registration. The pending cases was generated by BIRs computer program based on your registration as a professional so contest the findings based on the true nature of your job as an employee not as a professional. Your 2316 certified by your employer is proof that your are indeed an employee. If you have other employment documents so much the better. The BIR has a Taxpayer Assistance counter check this out and ask for this assistance in correcting your registration. Let me know of your progress. Good day.

No complication that i know of but your son needs to update his registration with the said RDO. TIN thru EO98 can be used for applying for a drivers license. When the TIN is used for employment your son should update his registration using the 1902. If your son gets married and has a dependent child he will likely need to apply for an update thru 2305 to get the additional exemption for his child. Once he does this the BIR RDO will know that the TIN used by your son was acquired based on EO98 so he will likely be ask to update first the TIN as an employee. The BIR has setup a Tax Assistance counter for taxpayers who would like to update their TIN registration. Should you have any problems regarding this please let me know.

Hi Jerry, you said you work in taguig area. So i take this that you are employed. if your TIN was updated thru 1902 before it was transferred then your TIN is valid for filing ITR. But since your employed i know that your employer is the one who should give you a 2316 form which usually serves as the ITR of employees and if you only have one employer for the entire 2009 taxable year then the 2316 certificate automatically serves as your ITR. The one attesting here is the employer. Anyway, your TIN was transferred without being updated thru 1902 the RDO in taguig may require you to update your registration using 1902. Documentary requirements for this would be your Birth cert., if married then your marriage cert.

BIR Taguig was previously located in FTI complex. The locational map links of this blog points to the 3rd floor Bonifacio Technology Center, 31st St. corner 2nd Ave., Crescent West Park, FL Bonifacio Global City, Taguig City. There numbers are 856-0553 and 856-7531. The address in the BIR website which you might have accessed is not yet updated. I provided RDO Taguig’s numbers so you can contact them for more information on their exact address.

Hi, I got my TIN from my previous employer, and now my new employer is asking me to transfer my home rdo. I went to my prevous home rdo and asked for a transfer by submitting 1905. When the BIR personnel checked my records, they found out that the status of my TIN number is OPEN CASE. The personnel told me that I should get an employment certficate from my employer of the period that I was in OPEN CASE status. Unluckily, the prevous company was dissolved and thus they cannot issue an employment cert for me. The BIR personnel told me that unless the status is not closed, I will not be permitted to transfer.

What is an OPEN CASE STATUS by the way? How did I arrived to be in the an OPEN CASE STATUS? How will it close?

Please help.

Hi! My previous company is in RDO #38 and Im now currently working here sa Makati. Kaya lang naka-register kami under CEZA. I need to update my status kasi I just got married pa lang. Ayaw ko sana ipalipat yung RDO ko sa Cagayan i-retain na lang sa QC. Is that possible? Pwede ko ba syang i-update na rin dun? Saan po yung RDO #38? sa may BIR ba yun na malapit sa SSS? Pls help!

Hi Genaro, if you have an open case then i take it you registered as a PROFESSIONAL thru online registration. Is this the case with you? if it is then thats why you have an OPEN CASE because as a registered professional you are telling BIR that you are DISPENSING your professional services for a fee and not as an EMPLOYEE. As a registered PROFESSIONAL the BIR automatically generates reports on required Tax that a PROFESSIONAL are REQUIRED to file. You need to CORRECT your registration with the BIR. Ask the Tax Assistance counter of your RDO to help you out. You may need to produce a BIR 2316 certificate issued by your previous employer if you were unable to get this and your employer is no longer around to give this to you. Then you may need to execute an affidavit attesting that this was so and you need to correct your registration because you are NOT ACTUALLY A PRACTICING PROFESSIONAL but an EMPLOYEE. If you have any other concerns just contact me again on this page.

Hi melissa, yes you cannot update your registration with the RDO who handles CEZA area. Yes it is possible but if you need to update your registration you have to go to RDO 38 to request for that update. I have a locational map of RDO 38. Click the link on the right side of this blog “BIR Locational Map” it will go to another blog site where i keep a locational of that RDO38. Its in West Avenue. hope this info will help you out

hello. sa RDO 30 po ako. Naging maayos naman po ang naging interaction ko sa mga BIR personnel. at kung ano po yung sabi ninyo ang pinagawa po sa akin. Inaayos na naman na daw po yung mga kaso ko. yun nga lang, aabutin pa raw po ng ilang buwan bago kumpletong maayos dahil papadala pa nila papeles ko sa national office. sila daw po kasi ang mag-close ng mga kaso. maraming salamat po sa tulong ninyo.

Hello, thank you so much for the reply. I cannot remember the way I filed my registration to the BIR but if that was so, maybe I really need to correct my registration. If I correct my registration, do I need to pay those taxes stated in the “OPEN CASE” status period? thank you.

Salamat din po inyong pagtitwala. Kung meron pa po kayong nais itanong magpost lang po kayo ng message dito.

Hello Genaro, no you don’t need to pay it since you never really were practicing your profession in the first place. If you do your telling BIR that they were correct in imposing the penalties and you are indeed a professional and you will likewise be required secure Official Receipts for your profession.

Hi, thank you very much for the advice. I think I will proceed to filing an affivadit attesting that I am not a practicing professional but rather a bare employee and thus I want to correct my registration in the BIR. Again, thank you very much and more power!!

You welcome, if you have any other concerns just post your message in my blog. Good day to all.

hello i have a problem, i recently resigned from my work to transfer in another company. I inquired BIR for my tin number and was shocked to know I don’t have any yet. Since my new company is requesting one, I gave them 1902 for them to apply for me. I also told my former HR that I don’t have any TIN records in BIR. She said she will verify it with someone. She also said i can apply for new one in my new employer.

Is it possible that they didn’t apply for me while I was working for them since I resigned two months after I was hired? Also, I want to avoid having two TINs since it is punishable, what if they still apply for me even if i’m not working for them anymore so that they wouldn’t be punished for not taxing my income? And lastly, Is it sufficient to verify if i have TIN record in ANY RDO?

Hi Jack, it would wise to check with TIN verification office and the BIRCC for double checking. Get the names of the personnel who assisted you and note the day and time you inquired. So there should be no question if you have a TIN or not. Then you can apply for a TIN if indeed you don’t have one.

It is possible because not all offices apply for TIN for their employees. It depends on the employer if they have the manpower to do this for their employees. Again getting a TIN is not the responsibility of the employer but by the employee who needs it.

Please take note that under substituted filing your employer is mandated to withheld tax from your pay whether you have a TIN or not. Another point to know is that the TIN number is NOT like a bank account number or like that of the SSS system. Under the said policy i mentioned the employer is likewise required to give their employees a certificate or the BIR Form 2316 in w/c the employer attest under penalties of perjury that they withheld and remitted the tax of their employee.

This certificate is usually given after the end of a taxable year. In your case you resigned from your old employer. I must advise you to get the BIR 2316 signed by your old employer for the taxes withheld from your pay. I believe this is also required by your new employer so they can continue and record your tax payments so that after the end of this taxable year 2010 they can give you your 2316 consolidated for the entire taxable year of 2010. Which should be filed on or before April 15, 2011.

If they withheld tax for your pay they should give you a certificate thru BIR form 2316. This is how we know they have paid our taxes with the BIR.

Hi anyone knows the exact address of RDO 40..i mistakenly applied new TIN number online and i have to cancel it. I was looking for that office today, in Cubao, but no one knows where to find it. They were telling me to go to Quezon City.

Thanks in advance!

Hi Anne, RDO 40 is not located in Cubao it rather handles Cubao area. Check out the BIR Locational Map at the left side of this blog. Click this link and yoou’ll find the locational map for this office. Under Revenue Region No. 7. It is in Quezon Ave. cor. Sct. Santiago.

hi , may process fee ba ung pag correct ng BIR TIN registration? may mga requirements ba para sa pag process?

kasi sa online ako nagregister. then my employer requires me to change my RDO. then pumunta ko sa RDO office ko sabi nila may OPEN case ako kaya de matransfer ung RDO ko. please help. asap thanks

Pertaining to correction of TIN registration there is no process fee that i know of.

Yes, you cannot transfer if you have an open case record with the BIR. I take it that you registered online as a “PROFESSIONAL”. If you read clearly the details once you register as one thru online registration you are required to pay 500 pesos for registration. After which you will need to request for authority to print receipts because with BIR when you register as a PROFESSIONAL you are actually TELLING BIR you are DISPENSING your PROFESSIONAL SERVICE for a fee and NOT AS an EMPLOYEE who receives COMPENSATION from an EMPLOYER. Once registered as a PROFESSIONAL you are already REQUIRED to FILE AND PAY TAXES on a regular basis prescribe for PROFESSIONAL under the BIR POLICY. This is why you have an OPEN CASE. If you applied online you should have noticed the REQUIREMENTs when you went thru that online application. Anyway, if my assumption in your case is accurate.

You need to CORRECT your registration with your RDO where your TIN is currently registered. Show proof of your employment. There’s a Taxpayer Service area where you can find assistance with this problem. If you have any other concerns do just post it here.

ok that clears my mind. one more question what will happen to the OPEN case after i already correct my REGISTRATION? thanks

Hi Manu, after you made the correction on your registration i presume that this case will be closed eventually. But the process may take a bit long. Because due to the check and balance efforts of the BIR to curb corruption in its ranks. The approval to close will pass thru higher offices of the BIR. I suggest that in you application to correct your registration. Attach documents to show proof of your employment or execute a legal document or affidavit duly notarized attesting that you are employed and you made an error on your registration which needs to be corrected. And that you never dispensed your professional services outside of your employment.

many thanks again…

Your most welcome. Thanks also for visiting my blog.

hi.. i already have a tin no. however the b-day is wrong.. can it be changed with the current tin no. or do i need to close that tin and make another one?? … also what are the issues if i just used the tin w/ the wrong b-day? … thanks ^^

Hi Marc, you don’t need to close your TIN or you DON’T need to apply for another one. You can correct this thru 1905 form. Click the link of this form provided in this article so you can better appreciate what i will be saying. In this form in Part II check letter “K” and write in the box provided “CORRECTION OF BIRTHDATE” and attach a certified true copy of your birth certificate. File this request to the BIR RDO where your TIN is currently registered.

Why is this process so tedious - i.e., the TIN has to be tied to a specific RDO and you have to get your replacement TIN card from the RDO that originally issued the TIN? In this century, people expect that records are in a centralized database negating the necessity of having to physically travel to another province just to get a replacement TIN card. The procedure that the BIR currently implements is so inefficient.

In your Nov 24, 2009 post, you said that “You can actually FAX your application form 1905 for transferring your TIN to the BIR RDO which has jurisdiction over the area where you are currently working.”

I have several questions related to this. I have a TIN that’s registered in Calamba (RDO 056). I haven’t filed my ITRs in several years because I was out of the country as a graduate student. I have now returned and I can’t find my TIN card so I would like to get a replacement. I have no CURRENT employer. I would like to change the RDO to the RDO in Makati (where I am currently staying/living. I may or may not be working in Makati in the future). I do not want to wait until I am employed to get a replacement TIN card because I need my TIN card for ID purposes.

My questions are:

1. Do I have to be currently employed in order to specify a new RDO where I would like my TIN to be transferred?

2. When I fill up FOrm 1905, what do I check to indicate that I would like to change RDO? There’s no option in Part II (Reason for Registration Information Update) for changing RDO. I assume that “E - Change in Registered address” is for businesses, based on the list of requirements for it on page 2 of the form. So, do I check “K - Others” and then write “Change in RDO”?

3. What do I write on page 2 for “Title/Position of signatory” if I am unemployed? “N/A” or “not employed”?

4. What is the fax number of RDO 056 (Calamba)? Please also say if the number is a dedicated fax number or a telefax.

5. Does the Calamba RDO have a Manila phone number?

Thank you for your help.

What does TSS (as in TSS unit) stand for?

@ birtaxinfo

thanks .. =)

Just want to clarify… you can only have ONE (1) TIN no. ?? Which means the TIN no. I used on my driver’s license must be the same as the one used in my income statement(employee) ?? This also applies for land titles, etc.. ?? … thank you…

Hi Madr, thank you for airing your concerns. We likewise want that the system be improve to that point. But as of now we have to work with the current system. We should understand that to change and improve the current system requires a very large capital outlay and approval for such project is not with the BIR but with our government. The BIR handles a much wider scope than any corporations in the land. It does not only handle small businesses or big corporations but also government offices of the entire Philippines as well. Including every worker employed in a certain office. The BIR Commissioner has pointed out the BIR in the 80’s (not sure about the exact year) had a goal of around 80 billion with a staff of a little below 11K. Now the goal is around 800+ billion while the manpower remains at the same level. The BIR has long made this request for additional manpower and hopefully this year our government will grant the additional staff it needs to cope with the gargantuan task of collecting revenue our government and country needs and likewise improve the services we all want to have. We hope for your kind understanding on this matter. Thank you and good day.

Hi Karina. For your first question the answer is no. YOu can transfer it even if you do not have a job yet.

Second, fill out 4E its at the bottom of BIR form 1905. Check No. 1 TRANSFER OF HOME RDO. Your Old RDO write RDO 56 which you said is where your TIN is currently registered. Now know which barangay you are in Makati. There are 4 RDOs handling Makati. RDO 49 North 856-6793, RDO 50 South 811-4492, RDO 48 West 856-5848 , and RDO 47 East 856-6818. Each of those RDO handles specific barangays in that area. Ask them so you know which RDO you should transfer your TIN.

third, "not employed" would do

fourth, 545-9910 TELEFAX

For your last question, no that office has no manila number that i know of.

Hi Karina, TSS i believe is the Taxpayer Service Section of the BIR District Office.

Hi Ramon, yes you are correct. The TIN you used for your drivers license should also be the TIN you are using in your employment. We should only have one TIN for our use in any transactions you may need in the future.

Hi,

May I know the address of BIR RDO 53B?

I cannot find it in the BIR website.

Thank you so much.

Hello Rex, RDO 53B is in South Station Center Spectrum Midway ext. corner Corporate Ave., Alabang, Muntinlupa.

Their telephone nos. are 856-0176 & telfax 856-1223

By the way Rex you may want to check out the BIR Locational Map link located at the right side of this blog. There is a map of RDO 53B which i just recently uploaded. Hope this can help you out.

Hi, I need help. I’ve been working in this company for 15 months now. As this has been my first job, the company took the task of getting us, the new employees, a TIN. Just recently, I needed and asked the company for my 2009 ITR. Alas, it turned out they did not, or they weren’t able to, secure us a TIN. My question now is what should happen to the Tax deductions from our salary the entire year of 2009? From what I understand, the filing of ITR for 2009 has already lapsed (April 2010). Does that mean we should demand to get back the Tax deductions?

Hello Naive, whether you have a TIN or not an EMPLOYER is required to withheld tax from their EMPLOYEEs compensation under the SUBSTITUTED FILING policy of the BIR. The TIN should be mistaken as the same in character as with an SSS No. or Bank Account Number. Again under the said policy of the BIR, an employer is LIKEWISE REQUIRED to give a BIR 2316 form certificate in which it is the EMPLOYER or its AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE who will sign that form under penalties of perjury not the BIR. which will serve as the ITR of an employee if that employee has only one employer for the entire taxable year 2009. Now if your employer is saying they didn’t file and pay tax that they deducted then they are liable for willful evasion of paying the tax. Employees can file a complaint with the BIR so they can act on this matter. Our taxes is for our government and we cannot claim any such refund not unless the tax withheld is greater than the tax due. Again if you employer has not remitted to BIR the taxes they deducted from you, because they could not give you the BIR 2316 certificate then you should inform BIR on this so they can properly investigate the said matter.

hi…

kudos for a very informative site.

I am currently under RDO 081 and would like to transfer to RDO 87. I had open cases resulting from a business which i did not formally close years ago and has settled it already. After receiving the clearance from 081, I filed a new business under 087 but they would not allow me to do so since my registration as they say has not been transferred yet in their system. When I called RDO 081 about this, they said that there is a RMO stating that all transfers will take effect at the end of the year. My concern is, RDO 087 will not allow me since they do not know of any RMO about this, and said they would wait until my TIN is in their system. I would want to register my business to avoid penalties but they will not allow me to reg.

Is there an RMO for this? Can I start my business even if my registration is still in 081? Please enlighten me on this matter. More power.

Hi, need help. I just found out that I am using wrong TIN number. I’ve been working for years for several companies and do not know since when I’ve been using the wrong TIN number since I only follow what is written in my ITR given by my employers. I moved to another company and was asked to change my RDO (I was never asked by previous employers to do this), this is when I discovered that I am using wrong TIN number. I asked BIR Call Support, and was advised to simply write the correct TIN number on Form 1905. That there won’t be any problem even if I have successive employer within the year (2 companies in a year). Is it true? Can you confirm that the BIR Call Support suggestion is valid, that it won’t cause me any problem. Additionally, since ITR for 2010 has not yet been released…can I simply ask my previous employer to use my correct TIN number? Thanks.

Hi Jean, this may help you out in your problem. I think its an RMC a Revenue Memorandum Circular 47-2008 heres the link print it out ftp://ftp.bir.gov.ph/webadmin1/pdf/41152rmc%20no.47-2008.pdf

It is entitled PROCEDURES IN HANDLING TAXPAYERS REQUEST FOR TRANSFER OF REGISTRATION.

This RMC also provides the RMO 11-2005 amending certain procedures of RMO 40-2004.

RMO 11-2005 > ftp://ftp.bir.gov.ph/webadmin1/pdf/20796RMO%2011-2005%20(corrected%20version).pdf

I hope this information will help you. Just advise the RDO 87 on this. I don’t know why they are not aware of this regulation. The RMC states clearly “the Bureau cannot prohibit taxpayers from transferring their business address”

Should you have any other concerns just post it here.

Hi She, the advise of the BIR Contact Center is correct. Even if you do not have a TIN the employer is required under SUBSTITUtED FILING to withheld tax from your compensation and likewise required to give you the BIR 2316 at the end of a taxable year or when you transfer to a new employer.

The certificate issued to you even if the TIN is incorrect does not invalidate the certificate because it is your employer who is the one attesting to the correctness of the certificate under penalties of perjury. Even if the TIN number is incorrect …what is important is the details of that certificate under your name. The best thing to do now is to use the TIN under your name.

After filling up the form, 1905 as indicated in your post:

-selecting K for TIN card, and
-knowing your RDO number

what’s the next step? what documents are needed in order to apply for TIN card?

I’m just curious, some says that TIN card is useless. Where can I use this card just in case I have one?

I went to RDO 40 (that’s the branch where my TIN is registered by my previous employer eTelecare).

They didn’t process my request for TIN ID because they say that they do not release ID’s to individuals, they only release ID’s to business owners and company representative.

I have few friends that are registered at other RDO branches but they manage to get their own TIN ID by themselves.

Is there any way I can get a TIN ID?

Hi Jen,

It is also indicated in my post:

For New applicants for TIN card no attachement is required. Just check the box of letter “K” in Part II of BIR Form1905 which says “OTHERS (Specity)” and write down what you need “TIN CARD” in the line provided.

No Attachment is required for NEW APPLICANTS for TIN CARD.

I don’t really know why they would say that. The TIN Card is proof that you have a TIN number under your name. And it is required in almost all government transactions. From transferring properties, to requesting for a drivers license etc.

You can use your TIN Card as the need arises. A lot of Employers require their employees to produce proof of their TIN. So it would be good if you have one already.

Hi John, I don’t know why they are saying that but kindly talk with Pura S. Niles the Taxpayer Service Section Chief of RDO 40 to help you out. You can point out this rulings.

RR 5-2010 nor RR 11-2008 does not state anything that TIN will be release to business owners or company representatives. The TIN is not OWNED nor registered to these business owners or company. It is ours.

For a copy of these ruling click the link below.

RR 5-2010 ftp://ftp.bir.gov.ph/webadmin1/pdf/51752RR%205-2010%20ON%20TRANSFER%20OF%20REGISTRATION.pdf

RR 11-2008
ftp://ftp.bir.gov.ph/webadmin1/pdf/42151rr%20no.%2011-2008.pdf

Should you have anymore problems with getting a TIN Card. Please let me know. Good day. I will also make a call to that office regarding this matter.

hi, I just graduated from college. And I’m thinking of getting a Tax Identification Number. There is BIR office near our place. will I be able to get a TIN even if I don’t have a work yet?

Thanks

Hi, good morning. I have a question in relation to my tin. I wish to change the name stated in my TIN CARD to have it consistent with name in my birth certificate. How do I do that? thank you very much. your reply will be very much appreciated.

Hi Adsmasher,

Sorry for the late reply. It seems that my answer was not posted. Anyway, you can apply for TIN even without work yet. But if you intend to find a job. I would suggest you apply for a TIN using 1902.

Getting a TIN using 1904 is for people who do not have work but needs to transact with a government office. Like opening a bank account or applying for a drivers license etc.

If you use this for work. you may need to update it still using 1902. So its better to get your TIN thru 1902.

Hi Bebadz,

Use the BIR form 1905 in Part II checkbox “K”. Write down “CORRECTION OF NAME” & “NEW TIN CARD”.

Attachment would be an authenticated Birth Certificate.

Submit this to the Revenue District Office of the BIR where your TIN is currently registered. Good day.

my question po ako. nagparegister po ako dati ng business so ang ginamit ko po ung TIN ko po.but it only last for 1 yr so di na po cya nagooperate.
Pano po un? i mean pano po ako kukuha ng TIN kasi ung TIN is under ng company name diba po.eh di na namn po nag exist n ung business ano po ppwede ko gawin sa TIN ko po?

continuation po sa question ko.
ung business po never namn po nagoperate. sopapano po un my babayaran po ba ako?siguro po mga3yrs ago na po un nagparegister ako ng business.

Hi Mariza,
Your TIN remains to be under your name. when you registered your business using that TIN. It still remained under your name including your business.

Your problem is not your TIN. Batay po sa sinabi mo. Never kamo nag operate itong business mo. But you have to understand that when you registered your business. You are required to file and pay taxes required by the RDO where you are registered.

So malamang po kung hindi kayo nagpa file ng returns or informed the BIR RDO of none operation hindi po nila nalalaman kung ano na po ang ginawa ninyo sa inyong business.

When you registered your business in the first place it points out your intention to operate it. If you decided not to continue the said business you should have informed BIR that you wished to close your business.

Ngayon po kung hindi ninyo nga nagawang ipaalam ito sa BIR RDO ninyo malamang po meron kayong mga open cases na kelangan ninyong i-settle.

Puntahan ninyo ang opisina ng BIR kung saan kayo nagparehistro po ng inyong business, alamin ninyo ang dapat ninyo i-settle at magrequest kayo na nais ninyong i-close na ang business ninyo. Kelangan ninyong gumawa ng letter of intent to close at addressed mo po ito sa Revenue District Officer.

Mayroon pong Taxpayer Assistance Counter sa RDO offices ng BIR na maaring makatulong sa inyo ukol dito.

Hi. I’ve read in one of your responses, that the “digitized” pvc-type TIN card… has long been discontinued. Now here are my questions: 1) When was it officially discontinued? 2) Why is it that some establishments (e.g. banks) are still looking for the new digitized TIN card? 3) Didn’t BIR made any official announcement for establishments to honor the TIN card made of cardboard? Thanks. Hoping for your quick reply.